Curse

Shadowmoon · Feb 01, 2008, 07:05 PM // 19:05

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Originally Posted by Gaile Gray

I did comment upon this, but I realize that not everyone reads every point of contact, so here are those answers and comments:

Yes, player theory was right in this particular case -- good detective work, guys! -- and the reset was due to a 16-bit ceiling on the code.
We will fix it so that it does not happen yet.
We will not restore the Favor, since in less than a day it was nearly back to the numbers it had reached before the reset.
And when asked whether we will put a cap on Favor, the fact is we don't have set limitations in mind for the future, even while it is true that the enthusiasm that players showed during our Double Lightbringer and Sunspear Points Weekend exceeded our expectations. It seems that players will be reaping the benefits of this exuberance for weeks to come.

Favor from the overflow will not be restored. I'm not happy they are willing to remedy a mistake that benefited the playerbase but not the problem that hurt it. It all about the methods, not what was lost.

Also
Quod licet Iovi, non licet bovi is reference to "what is permitted to one person or group, is not permitted to everyone". Hopefully A-net doesn't want to be permitted to as hipocritical as they feel like in a whim.

hurric · Feb 01, 2008, 07:08 PM // 19:08

it's programmers mind set so unless something serious comes from management nothing will change. I'm here posting on forum instead of working on the broken buggy application we've given our customers

N1ghtstalker · Feb 01, 2008, 07:17 PM // 19:17

less grindbased weekends and stop whining
favor enough and ppl complain of favor blabla
you don't need 36k minutes of favor for just a 1 minute stroll to storage and then to the avatar of grenth or baltha to access fow or uw
stop being so greedy and be happy with what you have
without anet weekend those 36k wouldn't even been there in the first place

EinherjarMx · Feb 01, 2008, 07:17 PM // 19:17

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Originally Posted by Shadowmoon

Mostly it is the princible that concerns me, I don't go to UW/FoW much, but the fact that they are willing to remove few "unearned" minute due to human error, but unwilling to restore many "earned" minutes due to programing error.

well that sums it up, but why should we be surprised if it is a typical anet practice?

zwei2stein · Feb 01, 2008, 07:21 PM // 19:21

This is matter of principle rather than something that hurts people.

It is still uncool way to handle this thing, error that gave us extra favor is asap fixed and extra favor removed, error that took a lot of favor is fixed, but lost favor not restored.

pygar · Feb 01, 2008, 07:27 PM // 19:27

Holy Crap.

Can we get emo about anything more unimportant? Can we get any more be anymore thankless that the devs that run the game fix things when errors occur, and bother to communicate it with us?

Please people, stop demonizing A-net and Gaile Grey over "chump change" issues. If you can create/run a game better than A-net has done with GW- GTFO of the forums and go do so.

Firebaall · Feb 01, 2008, 07:30 PM // 19:30

Just scrap the favour all together.

It's a broken concept now anyways, with UW/FOW scrolls. Heck while your at it, nix the 1K entrance fee.

=DNC=Trucker · Feb 01, 2008, 07:43 PM // 19:43

Yeah, whether we have enough or not, it's about principle. Truly I could care less its no biggie, but then why take away the 7k in the first place

pygar · Feb 01, 2008, 07:44 PM // 19:44

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Originally Posted by IslandHermet

I suggest you GTFO of the fourms if you do not understand why people are upset and from what you posted you have no idea why that we are angry. did you even read the posts or did you feel like getting up your post count?

go read posts 1,9,11,19,22,26,32 and then come here saying we are QQing about the favor.......we do not care about the favor it is the POOR FORM that anet has shown in handling this situation, and as for saying its hard to program well yes if you have no clue what you are doing then it is hard.

I read it. its about nothing. your idea of "principle" in this matter is juvenile- shit happens and this thread is only crying over spilled milk. They made a boo-boo, they fixed it- and now people are on here acting like Gaile Grey just kicked their dog.... people keep taking a nasty tone with A-net and Gaile over junk that cant really be helped and they may just decide to stop communicating or otherwise doing anything for the community.

N1ghtstalker · Feb 01, 2008, 07:46 PM // 19:46

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Originally Posted by IslandHermet

I suggest you GTFO of the fourms if you do not understand why people are upset and from what you posted you have no idea why that we are angry. did you even read the posts or did you feel like getting up your post count?

go read posts 1,9,11,19,22,26,32 and then come here saying we are QQing about the favor.......we do not care about the favor it is the POOR FORM that anet has shown in handling this situation, and as for saying its hard to program well yes if you have no clue what you are doing then it is hard.

let me put it this way
there's favor enough
7000k is missing so what
buy a scroll and it's done
poor form of handling...
handling the favor hitting the roof of the bonus they made in the first place
if there was no bonus weekend it wouldn't even have gotten to 2k

Drop of Fear · Feb 01, 2008, 07:49 PM // 19:49

this just doesnt make sense.
they are not giving us back our 36k minutes of favor yet they take away the 7k we shouldn't have?

is this a joke? cmon

Rocky Raccoon · Feb 01, 2008, 07:54 PM // 19:54

Greed: An excessive desire to acquire or possess more than what one needs.

N1ghtstalker · Feb 01, 2008, 07:58 PM // 19:58

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Originally Posted by Risky Ranger

Greed: An excessive desire to acquire or possess more than what one needs.

we don't need 36k favor...

Rocky Raccoon · Feb 01, 2008, 08:00 PM // 20:00

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Originally Posted by N1ghtstalker

we don't need 36k favor...

Exactly my point.

Steboy93 · Feb 01, 2008, 08:10 PM // 20:10

But seriously, who cares about favour anymore since we got scrolls?

Shanaeri Rynale · Feb 01, 2008, 08:13 PM // 20:13

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Originally Posted by Risky Ranger

Greed: An excessive desire to acquire or possess more than what one needs.

Justice, getting what one has earned or deserves..

Now imagine there had been a double balth faction weekend, but in the middle there was a bug that zeored everyones Balth Faction since the number got too high. People play like hell and get it all back, and are then told that actually everyone has to have 7000 faction deducted from their total. People then say hey it doe'snt matter you can get it back from flames of Balth. Same kinda thing..

Ravious · Feb 01, 2008, 08:14 PM // 20:14

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Originally Posted by Risky Ranger

Greed: An excessive desire to acquire or possess more than what one needs.

I bet deep down, no one really cares about favor. It is all about telling your customers the rules, having the customers excel beyond what you imagined, and then punishing the customers for excelling.

Now, I think most people did get over that wound...

But now, salt is being poured on it in the form of "we had a chance to alleviate some of the punishment, due to another mistake, but we chose to correct our mistake in a way that does not favor you."

Rocky Raccoon · Feb 01, 2008, 08:28 PM // 20:28

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Originally Posted by Ravious

I bet deep down, no one really cares about favor. It is all about telling your customers the rules, having the customers excel beyond what you imagined, and then punishing the customers for excelling.

Now, I think most people did get over that wound...

But now, salt is being poured on it in the form of "we had a chance to alleviate some of the punishment, due to another mistake, but we chose to correct our mistake in a way that does not favor you."

How is this really hurting anyone, it is not like they took anyones title away. There is no need for that much favor, do all you American players remember when we hardly ever had favor and to get it was a great thing. Now we have at this moment 23 days of continuous favor and we have a problem with that.

Ravious · Feb 01, 2008, 08:33 PM // 20:33

Like most sane people have said in this thread: It's not about really hurting anyone. It's just bad form, and I think most people want to think of A.Net in a higher fashion than what was done/shown.

Richardt · Feb 01, 2008, 08:38 PM // 20:38

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Originally Posted by N1ghtstalker

7000k is missing so what

Alright, I need to stop you there. I can forgive bad grammer, but bad numbering?

7000k=7 million
7k= 7 thousand

Almost 3 orders of magnitude difference there bro.